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At my Web site is the text of my article "What surname distribution can't tell us" from the June 1997 issue of Family Tree Magazine where I dispute Geoffrey Hodgson's supposed Norse etymology for the name. The article is at www.spub.co.uk/surnames.pdf in PDF format.

Looking through the other linguistic material on the SHARE web site, I noticed a few other things that strike me as doubtful (certainly in the absence of any reference to proper scholarly resources). For example, there's even less basis for regarding McLeod as derived from Odd - people don't just shove an extra L in at the beginning of words!

As to the relation between Odd and Odin, my immediate reaction - I have studied old Norse, but haven't actually got a Norse etymological dictionary to hand - is that this too is probably sheer guesswork unsupported by any evidence. Odd comes from an earlier form starting uzd- where the z has has been assimilated to the d, producing a double consonant (the equivalent German word is Ort, where the z didn't become assimilated but became r). I don't see how Odin can't have come from a form starting uzd. Double consonants in Old Norse were completely distinct sounds from single ones, not just a vagary of spelling as they would be in modern English. Given the strange status of names of gods, I wouldn't swear to this without looking it up, but I'd be interested to see any scholarly source for "kinship" of Odd and Odin. I'm afraid this all just looks fanciful to me.

The derivation of Hrothgar is from two nouns (not just syllables) hroth+gar = renown + spear, but these probably aren't to be interpreted as if they were adjective + noun - they were used much more like two forenames are now: to make a link between the child and two different adults, which is why particular first or second syllables run in families. Do we know that the Norman settlers in Northern France were specifically Danish? In any case the difference between the language of the Danes and other forms of Norse is more or less negligible until after the Norman Conquest.

The idea that Hrothgar got "corrupted" to Roger is a popular way of looking at perfectly normal linguistic developments - this notion of linguistic corruption is a myth (one of the modern reflexes of the myth of the golden age, I suppose), not something that has any validity in etymology. And Hodge must come from Roger, not directly from Hrothgar because English preserves the -th- when it comes from Norse or Anglo-Saxon.

Regards, Peter Christian MA FSG, Genealogical author, editor & lecturer.

What Peter Christian says is interesting, but does not affect the arguments concerning the origin of the Hodgson surname very much. The crucial evidence is the surname distribution evidence, and Mr Christian ignores this entirely. He does not seem to have read my book "THE HODGSON SURNAME".

A relationship between Odd and Odin does not imply a common etymological origin. The relationship was metaphorical, symbolic and poetic. In Norse mythology, Odin was typically seen carrying a spear, and the meaning of Odd relates to a spear or arrow.

In the past I have suggested the POSSIBILITY that McLeod may have come from Odd, given the ABSENCE of adequate explanations of the McLeod surname elsewhere. I have never been anywhere near certain of this and in my view "McLeod" should be removed from the list of Hodgson variants. The idea that McLeod relates to Odd is a hypothesis, nothing more. I am more convinced that the surname McOttar relates to Odd, but even here we cannot be 100% sure.

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